/e/ deep dive

Last updated : 15/12/2025 (took the b0ss's l01k for 1 nasty surprise)

- Introduction -
Setup
Debloat
Default connections
Other quirks
- Conclusion -

Introduction

Welp, guess I got too harsh on /e/, considering it's basically the only custom ROM (aside from Jaguar ROM) to provide older Android (A11, A12L) builds (if LineageOS had an official build for it). But still - I'm curious on how far I can take /e/ before it either becomes tolerable enough for me (or actually Lukas since he asked for it)... or it stops working altogether. So yeah - this is a deeper dive on /e/.

Setup

Debloat

Method : TWRP Delete (for the X3N, I did not debloat the L01K)

/system/apex

/system/app

/system/priv-app

/vendor/app

/product/app

/product/priv-app

/system_ext/app

/system_ext/priv-app

Debloating notes

On user-installed apps :

Default connections

Before committing to fully setting up the X3N, I used PCAPdroid to document /e/'s default connections, as their documentation is a stub (and remained so after these times, proving they weren't as privacy‐focused as they claim to be). Full pictures can be seen here : (Part 1) (Part 2). Important parts (cannot be captured with adb shell settings get command) :

While functional, I'm also somewhat curious as to why /e/ left their default connection documentation as a stub. But then again, the founder's a bit notorious for ignoring questions on security issues, so I'm not sure on trusting the whole development team (& their server by extension; though to a lesser degree than the likes of Go-ogle). So, I tried to put these in :

And I found out that connectivity.murena.io is hardcoded so it can never be changed. "Resetting" connections to default then.

All in all, it resulted in these : (part 1) (part 2) - those were taken before the reset, and shouldn't change after it.

For 1.17 I went for these before debloating :

And the results are unfortunately unchanged. Sure, on one hand, it ain't ze beeg tech (let alone Goolag / Go-ogle depending on how you look at 'em)... but on the other hand we're trapped in yet another zoo... except this time we're stuck in /e/'s cages, without any alternatives aside from migrating back to Go-ogle's zoo (which kinda looked like a savanna with CCTV poles?). What if Murena' servers went down? Your network (which might use captive portals instead of WPA password) will not work for your device, all because the devs actively prevent you from changing those default connections. And if Murena goes Mozilla (or outed themselves as a psyop)... /e/ users are fucked unless they can flash something else.

Other quirks

Conclusion

To be frank, my expectation's really low for /e/. On one hand, I'm kinda glad there's some well-maintained A12L builds (12/12/2023 Update : Not really (depending on the device - /e/ is also guilty of "RUSH B NO STOP!" towards latest Android, though at a slower pace), but at least older builds are available & provided); that also comes without Go-ogle connections by default (even if some default prebuilts can be shaky, though that can be taken care of rather easily). I am also surprised (and impressed) by /e/ on one unexpected aspect : background music playing - something that has been a common issue for the X3N (and basically any OnePlus & Xiaomi phones - not sure about other Chinese brands). However, with all that is good out of the way, I must bring out the ugly aspects of /e/ for me : enforced default connections, unnecessary interface changes, & unrepentingly behind on security patches. The interface can be tolerable, but the connections & security patches not. Therefore, while I'm somewhat glad to bring /e/ out of my "avoid" tier (if only because well-maintained older Android builds are either a dying breed or stuck in a Fight Club), I still felt like I made a mistake - one I can only hope I won't regret... though only time will tell if I will have to bring it down for the last time (and for the rest of my and/or the /e/ foundation's life). 30/7/2024 Update : yeaaaah... /e/ is now back in the "avoid" section.

Though since I kind of wanted to close this on a good note, here's what I think the /e/ foundation must do :

Until all of these came true, /e/ foundation (and murena by extension) cannot & should not be considered a serious privacy-focused foundation in any way. I mean, even I wanted to end it nicely, but I just can't. And with that, until Gael Duval's latest controversies (or someone made the perfect custom ROM) I guess...

15/12/2025 Update : revisited this page in an attempt to remake this page for the L01K, and found nothing I could meaningfully add (at least in making that new page any more different than this could be, so I discarded that effort). Save for the... sudo call deer.

pet deer sends regards

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